It depends on what your wanting to do as well as look. If bulk us the dbol and just smash some iron and eat eat eat. If wanna be ripped go with the winn on the back half. Your gonna gain regardless with the sust but deff gotta have at least 500mg a week of it. I pin on monday and thurs. To maintain your blood levels. Yes it does have prop in it which is a short ester but also has 3 others I sont know off the top but there longer esters. Theyll stay in your blood stream longer up to about 2 weeks or so. You might feel a little after a week or two but around week three they all be working and youll be smashing the weights. Being your 2 cycle Iwouldnt add any prop to it but front loading is always good from what i here and it gets your blood leavels up faster as what I did this cycle and I felt it in 2 weeks.